📌 MUST READ [in-depth interview] - Two renowned experts, Mark Freeman and Mark Drumbl, look at two major topical issues at this tipping point in the world. Is the death of the International Criminal Court (ICC) imminent? What does the future hold for international law? Mark Drumbl and Mark Freeman discuss the evolution and challenges of international criminal justice, while the International Criminal Court (ICC) is on the brink of the cliff. Drumbl reflects on the 1990s as a period where liberal internationalism peaked, but believes that the current shift back to state-centered politics is less of a regression than more of a return to the norm. He points out the transformation of international justice into a technocratic field that is disconnected from the human realities-. Freeman echoes this observation, stressing that the ICC is detached not only from the crime scenes it seeks to address but also from the political dynamics at play. They both argue for a justice that would prioritize proximity and local engagement, rather than a distant, universal application of norms. Drumbl sees the nation-state as the principal emotional attachment for most people and believes the ICC has failed to cultivate any sense of affection. Freeman highlights the principle of complementarity, which could have offered the ICC a locally grounded approach to justice. They emphasize the importance of humility, recognizing that judgments can oversimplify complex human experiences. The idea of "gray zones," as discussed by Primo Levi, serves as a reminder of the complexities of human behavior that international law often overlooks. Ultimately, they advocate for an international justice system that is more contextually aware, empathetic, and engaged with local realities. Between law and philosophy, this particularly rich and inspiring double interview could become an important long-term reference for those seeking to think about the future of international justice. 👉 https://www.justiceinfo.net/en/141309-thinking-about-death-icc-what-comes-next.html