Introducing "Pap & Politics," which is a podcast by #5breakfast's newsreader Thabo Baloyi, who sits down with the newsmakers shaping headlines — from politicians to pop culture icons — to unpack the stories behind the stories, while also getting to know them a little better. In this episode, Thabo sits down with the Minister of Communications and Digital Technologies Solly Malatsi, who gets candid about his rise in South African politics, whether he has settled into his ministerial post and navigating the GNU drama. Watch the full episode here: rb.gy/is9s3u